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The Help by Kathryn Stockett
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I have this terrible, dreary feeling in my diaphragm area this morning, and I’m not positive what it’s about, but I blame some of it on this book, which I am not going to finish. I have a friend who is mad at me right now for liking stupid stuff, but the thing is that I do like stupid stuff sometimes, and I think it would be really boring to only like smart things. What I don’t like is when smart (or even middle-brained) writers take an important topic and make it petty through guessing about what they don’t know. I can list you any number of these writers who would be fine if they weren't reaching into topics about which they have no personal experience (incidentally, all writers I'm pretty sure my angry friend loves. For example, The Lovely Bones, The Kite Runner, Water for Elephants, Memoirs of a Geisha, etc.). These are the books for which I have no patience, topics that maybe someone with more imagination or self-awareness could have written about compassionately, without exploiting the victimization of the characters. They’re books that hide lazy writing behind a topic you can’t criticize. The Help is one of these.

You’ve got this narrative telephone game in this book. The telephone game is pretty fun sometimes, and it is really beautiful in monster stories like Frankenstein and Wuthering Heights because what they are telling me is not intended as trustworthy or earnest. All of the seriousness in monster stories is an impression or an emotion reflected back through the layers of narrative. I don’t feel that way about the topic of The Help, though. In this book, a white woman writes from the point of view of a black woman during the Civil Rights movement, who overhears the conversations of white women. It's an important topic, and I don't want to hear it through untrustworthy narrators.

So, I can basically get on board with the dialect of the black maids, but what throws me off as a reader is when the black maid is quoting the white women and they’re all speaking perfect English without a trace of an accent. It becomes particularly weird when one of the black maids starts to comment on the extreme accent of one of the white women, Celia Foote, whose written dialogue continues to be impeccable. Who is this narrator? Why does she choose not to speak proper English if she can speak it? Why does she choose to give proper English to someone else who she has told me doesn't speak it? Also, usually the layers of narration in a telephone-game book are only within the book. In this case, it’s the author’s voice stabbing through the story. I am convinced it is her whose brain hears the white woman speaking TV English, and the black women speaking in dialect. It gives away the game.

Even the quotes from the movie have an example of this. A conversation between her and Minnie goes like this:

Celia Foote: They don't like me because of what they think I did.
Minny Jackson: They don't like you 'cause they think you white trash.

Celia speaks in a proper sentence, but Minny misses the "are" in the second part of the sentence. Celia says "because," but Minny says "'cause." If the reader were supposed to understand that Celia does not speak in dialect, that would make sense, but since it specifically states that she does, it doesn't make sense.

To attempt to be clear, I didn't have a problem that the book was in dialect. I had a problem that the book said, "This white woman speaks in an extreme dialect," and then wrote the woman's dialog not in dialect. Aerin points out in message 111 that I am talking about eye dialect, which is about spelling, not pronunciation, as in the example above. Everyone, in real life, speaks in some form of non-standard English. Though I have seen some really beautiful uses of eye dialect, as Aerin points out, writers typically use it to show subservience of characters or that they are uneducated, which often has racist overtones. If it troubles you that I'm saying this, and you would like to comment on this thread, you may want to read other comments because it is likely someone has already said what you are going to say.

I’m not finishing this one, and it’s not because I think people shouldn’t like it, but rather because I’m almost 100 pages in and I can see the end, and it’s failed to engage me. When a few IRL friends have asked what I thought of the book and I said I didn't care for it, they have told me that I am taking it too seriously, that it is just a silly, fluff book, not a serious study of Civil Rights. Again, I don’t have a problem with stupid books, but when it’s a stupid book disguised as an Important Work of Cultural History, all I want to do the whole time is tear its mask off. And a book about Civil Rights is always important cultural history to me. Anyway, the book becomes unpleasant; I become unpleasant; it’s bad news. If you loved this book, though, (or, really, even if you hated it) I would recommend Coming of Age in Mississippi. I think that book is one of the more important records of American history. Plus, it’s beautifully written, inspirational, and shocking. It's been years since I read it, so I might be giving it an undeserved halo, but I can’t say enough good things about it.

INDEX OF PROBLEMS WITH THIS REVIEW

"You should finish the book before you talk about it": comment 150 (second paragraph); comments 198 and 199.

“Stockett did experience the Civil Rights Era”: comment 154; comment 343.

“The author of The Lovely Bones was raped”: comment 190.

“The author of The Kite Runner is from Afghanistan”: comment 560.

"Memoirs of a Geisha is accurate and not comparable to The Help": comment 574.

“Don’t be so critical!”: comment 475.

“Have you written a bestseller?”: comment 515.

“Fiction doesn’t have to be a history lesson”: comments 157 through 162.

“Having grown up in the South during this era and having had a maid, I could relate to the emotional nuances of this book”: comments 222 and 223.

"Minny and Aibileen are relatable": comment 626

“You are trying to silence authors”: comment 317 and comments 306 through 316.

“Why do you want to read a Civil Rights book about racism and hatred? I would prefer one about friendship and working together”: comment 464.

“Why are there so many votes for such a half-assed review?”: comment 534.

“Authors can write outside of their personal experiences”: comments 569 through 587.
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Reading Progress

April 30, 2010 – Shelved
July 20, 2010 – Started Reading
July 24, 2010 –
page 63
13.58% "This feels really Ya Ya Sisterhood to me. I don't know if I should give up or not."
July 25, 2010 –
page 85
18.32% "Not for me."
July 25, 2010 – Finished Reading
August 1, 2010 – Shelved as: reviewed
May 18, 2011 – Shelved as: disturbing
May 18, 2011 – Shelved as: punching-tour
February 19, 2016 – Shelved as: abandoned

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message 901: by Ademption (new)

Ademption Good chatting with you, QuakerMaid.


message 902: by Tytti (last edited Jan 05, 2023 09:36PM) (new)

Tytti QuakerMaid wrote: "TO the audience: I blocked Tytti and Ademption. They are just antagonists.
Really, they're the same person, but I digress."


I doubt anyone cares about your opinion, people generally don't like people who try to dictate what others are allowed to write, which is what you did.

But I do suggest you read her "review", it does sound like it's about some different book! Does sound like she has some "issues"... :D


Samantha Ridgeway Maybe start with the movie to better understand!?!?! I love the movie xoxo it goes into talking about how African Americans feel trapped and have no rights! Until one white young woman stands up and writes an article on the cruelty the colored are receiving in a small town!!! Maybe I'm wrong though... We shall see xo


message 904: by Ademption (new)

Ademption Oh my god! Emma Stone taught me how to read this book. Jesus H. Christ in heaven, Lorda mercy hallelujah!


Kate  Furness This book was wonderful!


Melanie Stern I have to admit, I very much disagree with your review, but it would be really disingenuous on my part to not also admit that I respected AND appreciated it. A negative review that goes beyond "it wasn't engaging" or "I just couldn't finish it" and so forth, is just as beneficial as a positive review, and in some cases, I find it to be more so.
What I DO have a problem with are the outrageous number of comments that are outright attacks on the OP. It was made quite clear from the beginning that this was not going to be a positive review, and if the thought of someone not sharing the more popular opinion of a book is problematic to you, them don't read it. Some of you should be very, very ashamed of yourselves, I do believe.
Meredith, there were a few things that you said which I found very intriguing, and as that person who never grew out of the "why" phase, I wanted to ask you about them. I absolutely do not intend any offense, and I sincerely hope that you don't see them as such. I am solely asking these questions to satisfy my curiosity about a different pov. It's the same reason that I read, more or less.
In your review, you said that “these are the books for which I have no patience, topics that maybe somebody with more imagination or self-awareness could have been written about compassionately, without exploiting the victimization of the characters.” Personally I felt that she wrote with as much compassion as possible without destroying credibility/believability, given the time and nature of the subject matter, which unfortunately doesn’t allow for a whole lot of wiggle room. How do you think she could have shown more compassion than she did without stretching the limits of someone's suspension of disbelief? Also, ALL of her characters were, in some way or another, victims of the times and societal norms, whether or not she overtly spelled it out for all of them, and while I am absolutely certain that there is a line between "exploration" and "exploitation", I am not very sure that I understand exactly where that line should be drawn. What's the line for you?
My last question for you is about your problems with the dialect, which I thought you explained clearly and objectively. I somehow doubt that the fact that you did not also consider the fact that, during that time period especially, a black maid giving any indication that she was at least as intelligent as her white "superiors" would have been a very bad thing more often than not, which greatly reduces the likelihood that she would have chosen to use proper English anywhere but in the presence of a select few, but that wasn't your argument. So was there something in the way that it was written that made you feel like this was not the case?
Again, no offense is intended here, and if I HAVE offended, I very sincerely apologize.


message 907: by Ryan (new)

Ryan So you think all black people need to talk with an accent??? Strong words for someone who didn’t even finish the book. You should take an introspective look at yourself before commenting blatantly wrong things. Since you clearly didn’t understand the major themes and plot of this book, you should try watching the movie and then coming back to the book. Maybe that will help your elitist mindset.


message 908: by Ademption (new)

Ademption Phoebe Waller-Blunder.


message 909: by Lily (new)

Lily Sevin I just have an issue with your take on the dialect. Code-switching is a thing--a lot of people who speak in any sort of dialect talk that way because it's how they were raised, how their friends talk and how they feel most authentic communicating. It doesn't mean they couldn't do a News Anchor impression, or in this case, a privileged white lady impression. It's like doing a British accent, it's not that hard and I could talk that way all the time if I wanted, but it would feel wrong for me because I'm not British.

AAVE is a legitimate and grammatically rule-bound dialect of English that is perfectly comprehensible. People who use AAVE all their lives don't do so because they can't speak any other way--or because they don't know "proper English"... like what the hell girl...


unknown i will read this book


message 911: by Mone' (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mone' Moore I think that a lot of people who aren’t black can’t really speak too much towards the civil rights movement & what was happening at the time. while it was in turmoil, people still had to live their lives and work etc. to give up after 100 pages is i think disingenuous to your whole talk about “not a serious story on civil rights”. also sometimes black people don’t only want to listen / hear stories about our struggles from the eyes of pain—look at 13 years a slave, django, etc. sometimes fluffy, feel good is a much better representation. if you want a serious look at civil rights, slavery, and after own a history book


message 912: by Olga (new) - added it

Olga Demi Demi that's totally true!!!!


message 913: by Shri (new) - rated it 5 stars

Shri The book is actually really well-written, and if you read the note at the end, there's actually a life anecdote by the author showing that she has actually experienced these issues.


message 914: by Waller (new) - rated it 5 stars

Waller You absolutely need to read this book. It was completely engaging and the relationships between the characters were believable. So much learning to be had through this book not just about racial segregation, but human nature, behaviour and the importance of kindness in the world. Just read it.


message 915: by Jennifer (new) - added it

Jennifer M. You coming from the other perspective, CAN'T understand. Saying if she could speak proper English, then why doesn't she? You're not accounting at all for the history of getting beat for doing so. A little tone deaf in my opinion.


message 916: by Sai (new)

Sai S The absolutely irony of you not liking it when authors write about something they don’t intimately know, and then proceeding to make the comments you do about “proper English” is hilarious. I’m not defending this book, because I do think that it’s way too famous for what it is, and people never seem to give as much attention to black authors who’ve written much better and more insightful books. That being said, this review is embarrassing for you dude


message 917: by Cierra (new) - added it

Cierra Gibson Meredith… be so for real right now lol


message 918: by S (new) - rated it 1 star

S I love this review so much. I hated The Help.


Mountain Girl Hello All, I see that I am one of the few to disagree. I believe this book is a wonderful story from ALL perspectives. As you failed to mention in your ragging, the book also shows Skeeter's point of view. As you stated many times you didn't read the entire book. To be honest it's obvious, that at the end of the book, Mrs. Stockett tells the story of the maid who raised her named, Demetrie. Not all people speak the same way, this is evident today as people still speak this way in Mississippi and Louisiana. The Novel clearly states that Mrs. Celia is different from the other white women. You mentioned the whole "extreme dialect" thing. The definition of "extreme" can differ, the word that interested me the most is that it means "contrary." Mrs. Celia is said to be from the Deep South, which would suggest her accent was "contrary" to Hilly, Elizabeth, and the other white women who grew up in Jackson. Just "because" people talk differently does not mean they are less intelligent. The author was giving the reader a vocal picture, which does not seem at all racist. When writing, it is essential to use proper grammar. When you quote someone, you have to put it in their exact words, regardless of the speaker's own dialect. Mrs. Stockett would be considered a primary source since she experienced the civil rights movement firsthand and lived during that time in Mississippi. This book is a #1 Bestseller for a reason.


message 920: by Tiani (new) - added it

Tiani It’s called “code switching” and yes I agree with everyone else, if you don’t know then you don’t know, unfortunately you don’t know. Stopping after 100 pages is wild though.


message 921: by JC (new)

JC "They’re books that hide lazy writing behind a topic you can’t criticize. The Help is one of these." You are right.


message 922: by caro (new) - rated it 5 stars

caro esparza ay, pues eres blanca morra


message 923: by Lisa (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lisa Wiltshire You’re probably racist and can’t see the forest for the trees.


carmina (Ema)  y love you Eeste cea mai buna carte


message 925: by Anita (new) - rated it 1 star

Anita I agree with your review completely


message 926: by Zuzanna (new) - added it

Zuzanna Kurska Love this review. Thank you for it. Perhaps we should all be a little braver and rate books that we don't finish reading? It's average rating is so wrong.


message 927: by Christa (new) - added it

Christa C Sara wrote: "I don't begrudge you your opinions, but I just wanted to see what your thought was on The Lovely Bones. The author herself was raped and wrote a memoir on it, so I wanted to make sure you meant the..."

It s not a memoir, . is not technically based on a true story, but it was inspired by author Alice Sebold's experience of being raped as a college student.


message 928: by Laurence (new) - added it

Laurence Picq Sparrow, I get the impression that what mostly threw you off and made you think that the book was racist was the fact that Celia Foote didn't speak in dialect. From what I understood, she had a thick accent, which is entirely different from speaking a dialect. A person may speak in the exact same way as another, or in this case, perfect English, as you said, but with a strong accent. I listened to the audiobook, and that character's accent was well-rendered - which again doesn't mean she spoke any kind of dialect. Maybe it wasn't really possible to do that in the writing, though. There is a very strong accent in the area where I grew up, for example, but if you were to write a transcript, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, it's only orally that you hear it, if that makes any sense.

In any case, I loved the audiobook and didn't get that impression that it was racist. I particularly enjoyed the fact that it was written in three voices, and not from just one point of view. For that to be done, of course, the writer has to put themselves in the shoes of three different people, and for me, Stockett did that well. I enjoyed the mix of humour and some heart-breaking moments, as well as the background of some historical facts and events. I thought the characters of he two maid narrators were formidable and to me, they didn't seem 'imbeciles' but incredibly brave women. I also loved the fact that the book was not (only) about racism and hatred but also about how there were feelings between the races as the maids could also be treated as part of the family and the bonds with the children they raised was in some cases very powerful, which makes sense amd must have been the case.
For me, the humanity in it made it a great read, beyond the humour - which I enjoyed as well. I found it a beautiful book. Again, I listened to the audiobook so that makes for a different experience too. I might have seen some of the flaws you mention had I read the printed version.


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